House roll call 516 · 104th Congress · Jul 19, 1995
(house rejected the hobson substitute to the packard amendment that sought to prohibit the use of funds for any employee training when it is made known the trai
On Jul 19, 1995, the House voted 201–223 on “On agreeing to the Substitute Amendment” (HR 2020). Result: Failed. By party: Republicans 41–189, Democrats 159–34, Independents 1–0. It was a split vote: the parties took opposite sides, with some members crossing over. 75 members voted against their own party.
During the 104th Congress (1995–1996), Bill Clinton was president, and Republicans held majorities in both the House and Senate.
- Result
- Failed
- Yes
- 201
- No
- 223
- Did not vote
- 21
- Date
- Jul 19, 1995
By party
- Republicans41 yes · 189 no · 6 didn’t vote
- Democrats159 yes · 34 no · 15 didn’t vote
- Independents1 yes · 0 no
Who broke with their party
- John Glen Browder D-AL voted no
- Tom Bevill D-AL voted no
- Robert E. (Bud) Cramer Jr. D-AL voted no
- Blanche Lambert Lincoln D-AR voted no
- James Thomas Kolbe R-AZ voted yes
- William Marshall Thomas R-CA voted yes
- John Stephen (Steve) Horn R-CA voted yes
- Brian P. Bilbray R-CA voted yes
- Christopher H. Shays R-CT voted yes
- Nancy Lee Johnson R-CT voted yes
- Michael Newbold Castle R-DE voted yes
- Daniel Miller R-FL voted yes
- Porter J. Goss R-FL voted yes
- James Albert Smith Leach R-IA voted yes
- William Oliver Lipinski D-IL voted no
- Michael P. Flanagan R-IL voted yes
- John Edward Porter R-IL voted yes
- Jerry Francis Costello D-IL voted no
- Harris W. Fawell R-IL voted yes
- Glenn Poshard D-IL voted no
- Lee Herbert Hamilton D-IN voted no
- Henry Scott (Scotty) Baesler D-KY voted no
- Wilbert Joseph (Billy) Tauzin D-LA voted no
- James O. Mccrery III R-LA voted yes
- James Allison Hayes D-LA voted no
- Peter I. Blute R-MA voted yes
- Peter Gerard Torkildsen R-MA voted yes
- Constance A. Morella R-MD voted yes
- Vernon James Ehlers R-MI voted yes
- James A. Barcia D-MI voted no
- Frederick Stephen Upton R-MI voted yes
- Nick H. Smith R-MI voted yes
- James (Jim) Ramstad R-MN voted yes
- Isaac Newton Skelton IV (Ike) D-MO voted no
- Patsy Ann (Pat) Danner D-MO voted no
- Harold Lee Volkmer D-MO voted no
- Gillespie V. (Sonny) Montgomery D-MS voted no
- Michael (Mike) Parker D-MS voted no
- Gary Eugene (Gene) Taylor D-MS voted no
- Douglas Kent Bereuter R-NE voted yes
- Charles Foster Bass R-NH voted yes
- Robert Douglas Franks R-NJ voted yes
- Rodney P. Frelinghuysen R-NJ voted yes
- Steven Harvey Schiff R-NM voted yes
- John Eric Ensign R-NV voted yes
- Michael Patrick Forbes R-NY voted yes
- Susan Molinari R-NY voted yes
- Sue W. Kelly R-NY voted yes
- Benjamin Arthur Gilman R-NY voted yes
- Michael Robert Mcnulty D-NY voted no
- Sherwood Louis Boehlert R-NY voted yes
- John Francis (Jack) Quinn R-NY voted yes
- Amory Houghton Jr. R-NY voted yes
- Tony Patrick Hall D-OH voted no
- Paul Eugene Gillmor R-OH voted yes
- David Lee Hobson R-OH voted yes
- Deborah D. Pryce R-OH voted yes
- James A. Traficant Jr. D-OH voted no
- Steven C. Latourette R-OH voted yes
- William K. Brewster D-OK voted no
- Thomas Timothy (Tim) Holden D-PA voted no
- James Charles Greenwood R-PA voted yes
- Michael F. Doyle D-PA voted no
- Frank R. Mascara D-PA voted no
- John S. Tanner D-TN voted no
- Charles Wilson D-TX voted no
- Ralph Moody Hall D-TX voted no
- Preston M. (Pete) Geren D-TX voted no
- Charles Walter Stenholm D-TX voted no
- William Orton D-UT voted no
- Owen Bradford Pickett D-VA voted no
- Norman Sisisky D-VA voted no
- Scott L. Klug R-WI voted yes
- Steven Craig Gunderson R-WI voted yes
- Nick Joe Rahall II D-WV voted no
The bill
How each representative voted: Yes
- Earl Frederick Hilliard D-AL
- Raymond Hoyt (Ray) Thornton Jr. D-AR
- Ed Pastor D-AZ
- James Thomas Kolbe R-AZ
- Lynn C. Woolsey D-CA
- George Miller D-CA
- Nancy Pelosi D-CA
- Ronald V. Dellums D-CA
- Thomas Peter Lantos D-CA
- Fortney Hillman (Pete) Stark Jr. D-CA
- Anna Georges Eshoo D-CA
- Norman Y. Mineta D-CA
- Zoe Lofgren D-CA
- Sam Farr D-CA
- Gary Adrian Condit D-CA
- Calvin M. Dooley D-CA
- William Marshall Thomas R-CA
- Anthony Charles Beilenson D-CA
- Howard Lawrence Berman D-CA
- Henry Arnold Waxman D-CA
- Xavier Becerra D-CA
- Matthew G. Martínez D-CA
- Julian Carey Dixon D-CA
- Lucille Roybal-Allard D-CA
- Esteban Edward Torres D-CA
- Maxine Waters D-CA
- Jane L. Harman D-CA
- Walter R. Tucker III D-CA
- John Stephen (Steve) Horn R-CA
- George Edward Brown Jr. D-CA
- Brian P. Bilbray R-CA
- Bob Filner D-CA
- Patricia Scott Schroeder D-CO
- David Evans Skaggs D-CO
- Barbara Bailey Kennelly D-CT
- Samuel Gejdenson D-CT
- Rosa L. Delauro D-CT
- Christopher H. Shays R-CT
- Nancy Lee Johnson R-CT
- Michael Newbold Castle R-DE
- Douglas Brian (Pete) Peterson D-FL
- Corrine Brown D-FL
- Karen L. Thurman D-FL
- Sam Melville Gibbons D-FL
- Daniel Miller R-FL
- Porter J. Goss R-FL
- Carrie P. Meek D-FL
- Harry A. Johnston II D-FL
- Peter R. Deutsch D-FL
- Alcee Lamar Hastings D-FL
- Sanford Dixon Bishop Jr. D-GA
- John R. Lewis D-GA
- Cynthia Ann Mckinney D-GA
- Neil Abercrombie D-HI
- Patsy Takemoto Mink D-HI
- James Albert Smith Leach R-IA
- Luis V. Gutiérrez D-IL
- Michael P. Flanagan R-IL
- Cardiss Collins D-IL
- Sidney Richard Yates D-IL
- John Edward Porter R-IL
- Harris W. Fawell R-IL
- Lane Allen Evans D-IL
- Richard Joseph Durbin D-IL
- Peter Visclosky D-IN
- Timothy John Roemer D-IN
- Andrew Jacobs Jr. D-IN
- Michael Delavan Ward D-KY
- William Jennings Jefferson D-LA
- Cleo Fields D-LA
- James O. Mccrery III R-LA
- John Walter Olver D-MA
- Richard Edmund Neal D-MA
- Peter I. Blute R-MA
- Barney Frank D-MA
- Martin Thomas Meehan D-MA
- Peter Gerard Torkildsen R-MA
- Edward John Markey D-MA
- Joseph Patrick Kennedy II D-MA
- Gerry Eastman Studds D-MA
- Benjamin Louis Cardin D-MD
- Steny Hamilton Hoyer D-MD
- Kweisi Mfume D-MD
- Constance A. Morella R-MD
- John Elias Baldacci D-ME
- Bart T. Stupak D-MI
- Vernon James Ehlers R-MI
- Frederick Stephen Upton R-MI
- Nick H. Smith R-MI
- Dale Edward Kildee D-MI
- David Edward Bonior D-MI
- Sander Martin Levin D-MI
- Lynn Nancy Rivers D-MI
- John Conyers Jr. D-MI
- John David Dingell Jr. D-MI
- David R. Minge D-MN
- James (Jim) Ramstad R-MN
- Bruce Frank Vento D-MN
- Martin Olav Sabo D-MN
- William Paul Luther D-MN
- Collin Clark Peterson D-MN
- James Louis Oberstar D-MN
- William Lacy Clay Sr. D-MO
- Richard Andrew Gephardt D-MO
- Karen Mccarthy D-MO
- Bennie Thompson D-MS
- John Patrick Williams D-MT
- Eva M. Clayton D-NC
- Charles Grandison Rose III D-NC
- Willie Gathrel (Bill) Hefner D-NC
- Melvin L. Watt D-NC
- Earl Ralph Pomeroy III D-ND
- Douglas Kent Bereuter R-NE
- Charles Foster Bass R-NH
- Robert Ernest Andrews D-NJ
- Frank Pallone Jr. D-NJ
- Robert Douglas Franks R-NJ
- Robert Guy Torricelli D-NJ
- Donald Milford Payne D-NJ
- Rodney P. Frelinghuysen R-NJ
- Robert Menendez D-NJ
- Steven Harvey Schiff R-NM
- Bill Richardson D-NM
- John Eric Ensign R-NV
- Michael Patrick Forbes R-NY
- Gary Leonard Ackerman D-NY
- Floyd Harold Flake D-NY
- Thomas J. Manton D-NY
- Jerrold Lewis Nadler D-NY
- Charles Ellis (Chuck) Schumer D-NY
- Edolphus Towns D-NY
- Major Robert Odell Owens D-NY
- Nydia M. Velázquez D-NY
- Susan Molinari R-NY
- Carolyn Bosher Maloney D-NY
- Charles B. Rangel D-NY
- José E. Serrano D-NY
- Eliot Lance Engel D-NY
- Nita M. Lowey D-NY
- Sue W. Kelly R-NY
- Benjamin Arthur Gilman R-NY
- Sherwood Louis Boehlert R-NY
- Maurice Dunlea Hinchey D-NY
- Louise McIntosh Slaughter D-NY
- John Joseph Lafalce D-NY
- John Francis (Jack) Quinn R-NY
- Amory Houghton Jr. R-NY
- Paul Eugene Gillmor R-OH
- David Lee Hobson R-OH
- Marcia Carolyn (Marcy) Kaptur D-OH
- Louis Stokes D-OH
- Sherrod Brown D-OH
- Thomas Charles Sawyer D-OH
- Deborah D. Pryce R-OH
- Steven C. Latourette R-OH
- Elizabeth Furse D-OR
- Ronald Lee Wyden D-OR
- Peter Anthony Defazio D-OR
- Thomas Michael Foglietta D-PA
- Chaka Fattah D-PA
- Robert Anthony Borski Jr. D-PA
- Ronald Klink D-PA
- James Charles Greenwood R-PA
- Paul E. Kanjorski D-PA
- John Patrick Murtha Jr. D-PA
- William Joseph Coyne D-PA
- Paul F. Mchale Jr. D-PA
- Patrick Joseph Kennedy D-RI
- John F. (Jack) Reed D-RI
- John McKee Spratt Jr. D-SC
- James Enos Clyburn D-SC
- Timothy Peter (Tim) Johnson D-SD
- Robert Nelson Clement D-TN
- Barton Jennings Gordon D-TN
- Jim Chapman D-TX
- Lloyd Alton Doggett II D-TX
- Thomas Chester (Chet) Edwards D-TX
- Eligio De La Garza II (Kika) D-TX
- Ronald D'Emory Coleman D-TX
- Sheila Jackson Lee D-TX
- Henry B. González D-TX
- Jonas Martin Frost D-TX
- Kenneth E. Bentsen Jr. D-TX
- Solomon P. Ortiz D-TX
- Frank Tejeda D-TX
- Raymond Eugene (Gene) Green D-TX
- Eddie Bernice Johnson D-TX
- Robert C. Scott D-VA
- Lewis Franklin Payne Jr. D-VA
- James P. Moran D-VA
- Frederick C. Boucher D-VA
- Bernard Sanders I-VT
- Norman DeValois Dicks D-WA
- James A. Mcdermott D-WA
- Scott L. Klug R-WI
- Steven Craig Gunderson R-WI
- Gerald Daniel Kleczka D-WI
- Thomas M. Barrett D-WI
- David Ross Obey D-WI
- Alan Bowlby Mollohan D-WV
- Robert Ellsworth Wise Jr. D-WV
How each representative voted: No
- Donald Edwin Young R-AK
- Herbert Leon (Sonny) Callahan R-AL
- Robert Terry Everett R-AL
- John Glen Browder D-AL
- Tom Bevill D-AL
- Robert E. (Bud) Cramer Jr. D-AL
- Spencer T. Bachus III R-AL
- Blanche Lambert Lincoln D-AR
- Timothy Hutchinson R-AR
- Jay W. Dickey Jr. R-AR
- Matthew James Salmon R-AZ
- Robert Lee Stump R-AZ
- John B. Shadegg R-AZ
- John D. Hayworth Jr. R-AZ
- Frank D. Riggs R-CA
- Walter William (Wally) Herger R-CA
- John Taylor Doolittle R-CA
- William P. Baker R-CA
- Richard William Pombo R-CA
- George P. Radanovich R-CA
- Andrea Seastrand R-CA
- Elton W. Gallegly R-CA
- Howard P. (Buck) Mckeon R-CA
- Carlos John Moorhead R-CA
- David Timothy Dreier R-CA
- Edward Randall Royce R-CA
- Charles Jeremy (Jerry) Lewis R-CA
- Jay C. Kim R-CA
- Ken Calvert R-CA
- Sonny Bono R-CA
- Dana Rohrabacher R-CA
- Robert Kenneth Dornan R-CA
- Charles Christopher Cox R-CA
- Ronald C. Packard R-CA
- Randall (Duke) Cunningham R-CA
- Duncan Lee Hunter R-CA
- Scott Mcinnis R-CO
- A. Wayne Allard R-CO
- Joel M. Hefley R-CO
- Daniel Schaefer R-CO
- Gary A. Franks R-CT
- Charles Joseph Scarborough R-FL
- Tillie Kidd Fowler R-FL
- Clifford Bundy Stearns R-FL
- John L. Mica R-FL
- Ira William Mccollum Jr. (Bill) R-FL
- Michael Bilirakis R-FL
- Charles William (Bill) Young R-FL
- Charles Terrance Canady R-FL
- David Joseph Weldon R-FL
- Mark A. Foley R-FL
- Ileana Ros-Lehtinen R-FL
- Lincoln Diaz-Balart R-FL
- Eugene Clay Shaw Jr. R-FL
- Jack Kingston R-GA
- Michael Allen (Mac) Collins R-GA
- John Elmer Linder R-GA
- Bob Barr R-GA
- Saxby Chambliss R-GA
- John Nathan Deal R-GA
- Charles W. Norwood Jr. R-GA
- James Allen Nussle R-IA
- James Ross Lightfoot R-IA
- Greg Ganske R-IA
- Thomas Latham R-IA
- Helen P. Chenoweth-Hage R-ID
- Michael Dean Crapo R-ID
- William Oliver Lipinski D-IL
- Henry John Hyde R-IL
- Gerald C. (Jerry) Weller R-IL
- Jerry Francis Costello D-IL
- John Dennis Hastert R-IL
- Thomas W. Ewing R-IL
- Donald A. Manzullo R-IL
- Ray H. Lahood R-IL
- Glenn Poshard D-IL
- David Martin Mcintosh R-IN
- Mark Edward Souder R-IN
- Stephen Earle Buyer R-IN
- Danny Lee Burton R-IN
- John Thomas Myers R-IN
- John Nathan Hostettler R-IN
- Lee Herbert Hamilton D-IN
- Charles Patrick (Pat) Roberts R-KS
- Sam Dale Brownback R-KS
- Jan Meyers R-KS
- Todd Tiahrt R-KS
- Wayne Edward (Ed) Whitfield R-KY
- Ron Lewis R-KY
- James Paul David Bunning R-KY
- Harold Dallas (Hal) Rogers R-KY
- Henry Scott (Scotty) Baesler D-KY
- Robert Linlithgow Livingston Jr. R-LA
- Wilbert Joseph (Billy) Tauzin D-LA
- Richard Hugh Baker R-LA
- James Allison Hayes D-LA
- Wayne Thomas Gilchrest R-MD
- Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. R-MD
- Roscoe Gardner Bartlett R-MD
- James Longley R-ME
- Peter Hoekstra R-MI
- David Lee Camp R-MI
- James A. Barcia D-MI
- Dick Chrysler R-MI
- Joseph Knollenberg R-MI
- Gilbert W. Gutknecht R-MN
- James Matthes Talent R-MO
- Isaac Newton Skelton IV (Ike) D-MO
- Patsy Ann (Pat) Danner D-MO
- Melton D. (Mel) Hancock R-MO
- Norvell William (Bill) Emerson R-MO
- Harold Lee Volkmer D-MO
- Roger F. Wicker R-MS
- Gillespie V. (Sonny) Montgomery D-MS
- Michael (Mike) Parker D-MS
- Gary Eugene (Gene) Taylor D-MS
- David Funderburk R-NC
- Walter Beaman Jones Jr. R-NC
- Fred Heineman R-NC
- Richard M. Burr R-NC
- Howard Coble R-NC
- Sue Myrick R-NC
- Cass Ballenger R-NC
- Charles Hart Taylor R-NC
- Jon Lynn Christensen R-NE
- William E. Barrett R-NE
- William H. Zeliff Jr. R-NH
- Frank A. Lobiondo R-NJ
- Hugh James Saxton R-NJ
- Christopher Henry Smith R-NJ
- Margaret Scafati Roukema R-NJ
- William J. Martini R-NJ
- Richard Zimmer R-NJ
- Joseph Richard Skeen R-NM
- Barbara Farrell Vucanovich R-NV
- Enrico A. (Rick) Lazio R-NY
- Peter T. King R-NY
- Dan Frisa R-NY
- Michael Robert Mcnulty D-NY
- Gerald Brooks Hunt Solomon R-NY
- John Michael Mchugh R-NY
- James T. Walsh R-NY
- L. William Paxon R-NY
- Steve Chabot R-OH
- Robert Jones (Rob) Portman R-OH
- Tony Patrick Hall D-OH
- Michael Garver Oxley R-OH
- Frank Cremeans R-OH
- John Andrew Boehner R-OH
- Martin R. Hoke R-OH
- John Richard Kasich R-OH
- Ralph Straus Regula R-OH
- James A. Traficant Jr. D-OH
- Robert William Ney R-OH
- Steve Largent R-OK
- Thomas Allen Coburn R-OK
- William K. Brewster D-OK
- Julius Caesar Watts Jr. (J. C.) R-OK
- Ernest James Istook Jr. R-OK
- Frank D. Lucas R-OK
- Wes Cooley R-OR
- Jim Bunn R-OR
- William Floyd Clinger Jr. R-PA
- Thomas Timothy (Tim) Holden D-PA
- Wayne Curtis (Curt) Weldon R-PA
- E. G. (Bud) Shuster R-PA
- Joseph Michael Mcdade R-PA
- Jon D. Fox R-PA
- Robert Smith Walker R-PA
- George William Gekas R-PA
- Michael F. Doyle D-PA
- William Franklin Goodling R-PA
- Frank R. Mascara D-PA
- Philip Sheridan English R-PA
- Mark Sanford R-SC
- Floyd Davidson Spence R-SC
- Lindsey O. Graham R-SC
- Robert Durden Inglis R-SC
- James Henry Quillen R-TN
- John J. Duncan Jr. R-TN
- Zachary Paul Wamp R-TN
- Van Hilleary R-TN
- Ed Bryant R-TN
- John S. Tanner D-TN
- Charles Wilson D-TX
- Sam Johnson R-TX
- Ralph Moody Hall D-TX
- Joe Linus Barton R-TX
- William Reynolds Archer Jr. R-TX
- Jack Milton Fields Jr. R-TX
- Steve Stockman R-TX
- Preston M. (Pete) Geren D-TX
- William McClellan (Mac) Thornberry R-TX
- Gregory H. Laughlin R-TX
- Charles Walter Stenholm D-TX
- Larry Ed Combest R-TX
- Lamar Seeligson Smith R-TX
- Thomas Dale Delay R-TX
- Henry Bonilla R-TX
- Richard Keith Armey R-TX
- James Vear Hansen R-UT
- Enid Greene Waldholtz R-UT
- William Orton D-UT
- Herbert Harvell Bateman R-VA
- Owen Bradford Pickett D-VA
- Norman Sisisky D-VA
- Robert William Goodlatte R-VA
- Thomas Jerome Bliley Jr. R-VA
- Frank Rudolph Wolf R-VA
- Thomas M. Davis III R-VA
- Richard Alan (Rick) White R-WA
- Jack Metcalf R-WA
- Linda Smith R-WA
- Richard Norman (Doc) Hastings R-WA
- George R. Nethercutt Jr. R-WA
- Jennifer Blackburn Dunn R-WA
- Randy J. Tate R-WA
- Mark W. Neumann R-WI
- Thomas Evert Petri R-WI
- Toby A. Roth R-WI
- Frank James Sensenbrenner Jr. R-WI
- Nick Joe Rahall II D-WV
- Barbara L. Cubin R-WY
Did not vote
- Victor Herbert Fazio Jr. D-CA
- Robert T. Matsui D-CA
- Thomas J. Campbell R-CA
- Juanita Millender-Mcdonald D-CA
- Newton Leroy Gingrich R-GA
- John Nathan Deal D-GA
- Bobby L. Rush D-IL
- Jesse L. Jackson Jr. D-IL
- Mel Reynolds D-IL
- Philip Miller Crane R-IL
- Wilbert Joseph (Billy) Tauzin R-LA
- James Allison Hayes R-LA
- John Joseph Moakley D-MA
- Albert Russell Wynn D-MD
- Elijah Eugene Cummings D-MD
- Barbara-Rose Collins D-MI
- Michael (Mike) Parker R-MS
- Earl Blumenauer D-OR
- Harold Eugene Ford D-TN
- John Wiley Bryant D-TX
- Gregory H. Laughlin D-TX
Other votes
From Voteview roll call records.
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